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New Zero-Dollar Bidding System

In an interesting move, Project Wonderful has decided to change the way that zero-dollar bidding works.  In the past, any bid for no dollars and no cents could be outbid by an equal shot - that is, replaced by the most recent $0.00 bid.  This worked pretty well, for a time - before people with far too much time on their hands got around to placing new $0.00 bids every day.  The new changes made this week are set to encourage a new influx of money into the Project Wonderful system, stirring up the economy a bit, and they're detailed in "Read More."

As of January 2nd, 2007, bids worth $0.00 cannot be outbid by other $0.00 bids, but run for a maximum of two days.  This means that all the adverts you had up at $0.00 before January 2nd got two days of guaranteed free advertising, without the theat of somebody else coming along and replacing them without paying.  And then, of course, you could sit around and watch your monitor, hawklike, as your bid expired - and simply stick it in again with lightning speed, for another hassle-free two days.

Or so it would seem.  True enough, if that were the only change made, it would make things worse, not better.  But it wasn't the only change - you can now bid in one-cent increments up to ten cents.  You can knock the free advertisers off the spot for a penny!

For very low-traffic websites, this has been a welcome change.  Rather than $0.00, they're now getting $0.01.  Woo.

For middling-to-low traffic websites, the change has been rather unwelcome.  Plenty of users have seen their bids go down from $0.50 a day to $0.05 a day, which is not cool at all.  However, it was kind of inevitable that sooner or later, the tide would shift in the opposite direction as more and more publishers signed up, and advertisers had more sites to choose from - and pennies a day are better than nothing.  Plus, there's always the opportunity to sink those pennies back into the system by bidding on some other low-traffic sites.

One other change that was introduced is the ability to bid on an entire ad box and say "Give me the cheapest one here, please."  This was requested pretty well right from the start, and is ready to rock right now.

This change has an interesting effect in that while advertising is served as cheaply as possible to the guy saying "Give me the cheapest," the rates are pushed up to a minimum of his price for everybody else on the same ad box.

For example, an ad box that looks like this:

$0.20
$0.50
$0.40
$0.20
$0.80
$0.70
$0.60
$0.20

Will look like this if Mister Cheapest puts in a bid for fifty cents and gets in at thirty:

$0.30
$0.50
$0.40
$0.30
$0.80
$0.70
$0.60
$0.30

So, I think we can expect much more money for the bigger publishers, a fairer deal for the advertisers, and more realistic rates for smaller publishers, which will lead to a more stable and durable economy.

Another, slightly more worrying aspect of the limit on zero-dollar bids is that it could lead to a lot more sites displaying "your ad here" notices, which suck pretty hard.  Does anybody know yet if expired $0 bids are allowed to continue if there's nothing to take their place?

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New Zero-Dollar Bidding System
Authored by: dough boy on Sunday, January 07 2007 @ 01:08 AM GMT
Yes, if you have say 8 $0.00 bids on your 8 buttons, and one expires, then yes your area would show the "your ad here" section again.

One way around this would be to submit a bid of $.01 and set it for a time frame as you would always only have to pay the $.00 until someone out bid you (or all 8 slots were paying).

One thing I have suggested is that they could offer another level of advertising.  For instance I could pay a flat fee to be listed on all ad boxes that were buttons and had $.00 bids on them.  That way once a new box was created, it would immediately fill up with ads rather than be blank.
New Zero-Dollar Bidding System
Authored by: CWF on Saturday, February 17 2007 @ 09:47 PM GMT
I think you could easily make a system saying that any one could bid on newly opened ad-boxes, and the bid could be of 0.01$ for every ad shown a day. I dont think you should have a free offer for this, and I dont think you should be paying Project Wonderful for advertising for free on somebodys site. However I have suggested another method. What if you got free advertising until a higher bid on the sites generated by people referred to PW by you? Ryan was open to the idea I think. This means that you dont need to make 2 day 0 offers, and there would not be that many "your ad here" spots. Of course you should only get one spot but it would mean that business would quickly grow for people. It also means that if you are referred then you can not have others advertise for free in your bigger ad-boxes like the 125x125 if it consists of only one space. Because the 0$ bid offer is alreeady given. It would also mean that the one offering 0.01$ would actually have to pay that. I think this could help in more than one way... It would be profitable to advertise PRoject wonderful and get more people in here, and it would drive up bids and thus make it more profitable to have ad-spaces. I am afraid that if people only earn 0.01 a day on their 4-5 ad-boxes then they might close them down after a short while. But if they earned 0.10 a day then maybe they would keep it open. I for one know that my webhotel could be covered by ad-income of 0.30$ a day. This also means that my ads should be giving me this to keep on my site. So far I am generating aprox 0.02$ a day, but I have only recently started using PW and the site isn't that big yet, so I think it has potential.

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